We stored our RV for nearly 1.5 years, and learned a lot.
In early 2018 we drove our bus to Texas to attend & speak at the RV Entrepreneur Summit.
We had tried and tried to get a spot at the co-op park in Benson by then so we could then just proceed to Arizona after the conference and leave our bus in storage there before returning to boat life.
But, we weren’t high enough up the hot list by then.
So instead, we found storage in south Austin near my brother’s place.
We figured we’d leave the bus in Texas for about 6 months, return, and then proceed to a winter in Arizona. We’d be high enough up the hot list by then to score any lot we’d like in Benson.
Oh…. the best laid plans.
We did end up scoring an awesome lot in Benson soon after, but didn’t return to the bus for 20 months.
In this video, we recap what it took to get Zephyr out of long term storage, what failed and the lessons we learned:
For those who are not video people, here’s a quick written re-cap:
Storage Spot & Costs
We selected Budget Storage & Parking in south Austin at 12001 Manchaca Rd (phone: 512-282-7867).
They don’t have a website it seems – so how did technomads like us end up there??
My brother used them to store his boat and he lives nearby. So we’d have family to check in on things if needed.
They have covered and indoor RV storage.
We selected a 40′ x 10′ private ‘barn’ to store Zephyr – figuring with all the crazy weather Texas can get (wind, hail, thunderstorms), it was worth it.
The cost was $270/month – kinda pricey (where’s the ‘budget’ in Budget??), but it included electric too. Since we wouldn’t have solar, that was important to keep our systems online.
And we figured, it was only for a few months – right?
Nope, it turned into 20 months in total we paid.
That’s $5400. Ouch.
Storage Gets Extended to 20 months
We fully had the intention to return to Florida, get our bus out of storage in Miami – and get the heck out of hurricane zone by summer. Possibly up to the Chesapeake area.
But exhaustion hit us. Between Hurricane Irma, hitting a submerged channel marker requiring 5 weeks ‘on the hard’ in Miami, the quick RV trip to Texas and then tackling MORE boat projects in spring – we hit a wall.
Instead, we decided to cruise the St. Johns River during hurricane season (AMAZING!) – reasonably more protected than the coastline.
And then we got to Sanford, fell in love and the rest is history.
Failed Systems
Storing for a few months is different than storing for nearly 2 years. After the RVE Summit, we were both exhausted and terribly sick with ‘conference crud’ and allergies.
We weren’t in our best mind to pay attention to details.. or predict the future.
Ok, realistically – can any of us really predict the future??
We did well to do things like moderate cleaning, pack up our stuff, get our perishable foods gifted to fellow RVing friends, leave behind remote monitoring and fill up the fuel tank & add stabilizer.
But we didn’t forecast what could happen if we didn’t return in a few months.
And that was our mistake.
Power System – The Lithium Dies
After about a year – sometime in Spring 2019 – the storage facility experienced a prolonged (like.. days) power loss.
This led to our lithium battery’s EMS system shutting them down. And our installation wasn’t advanced enough to come back on line automatically. They need manual intervention.
My brother made a good effort to assist, but even with Chris’ remote assistance – we were unable to get our power system back online.
This meant our entire power system was off for nearly 6 months. And the batteries drained beyond repair.
We’ll be following up soon with an assessment of what happened and a re-cap of our 8.5 years with one of the first RV house system lithium battery installations.
Starting Batteries
And then, our coach standard issue lead acid starting batteries were nearly dead. They were set to trickle charge off the inverter.
Well, the inverter went offline during the house battery system shut down.
Thus, starting batteries were dead too.
They were older, and would need replacement soon anyway. So not a huge loss.
But, in a 10′ wide storage unit, that meant our bays couldn’t fully open. Which meant we had to finagle the battery exchange in very tight quarters to even start our bus. We did it however.
Moldy Fridge
While we gifted on all our perishable food before storage, we figured that since we’d have power we’d keep a light load on the batteries by leaving the fridge running.
Our fridge is a Danfoss compressor style by Vitrofigo – running off 12v, 24v or 110 (no propane).
Because we anticipated a running fridge, we didn’t bother to clean it.
Wow, what a mistake.
We didn’t leave much behind but a few cans of beer – but egads, the fridge was covered in mildew/mold!
Thankfully, we learned a lot post-Irma – and it cleaned up in a jiffy with repeated treatments of white vinegar, hydrogen peroxide and bleach.
Pit Toilet
During our 2015 bus renovations, Dometic gifted us their 320 porcelain toilet to try out. It’s a residential style commode, and is quite spiffy. We’ve been rather spoiled by our throne (with a 75g black tank underneath it).
Well, we were overdue to change out the valve seal (we tried in 2016 – but Dometic instead sent us an entire toilet instead of just the seal kit.. ummm).. and the water had completely drained out of the bowl.
This lead to crystallization around the valve and ball springs.
Which meant, the toilet was solidly sealed shut upon return and would not flush.
Chris managed to chisel the gunk out and get the ball open – which meant we could use the toilet as a pit toilet.
Which we did for over a month (fun) until Dometic determined the springs were not ‘user serviceable’ and had a new toilet meet us in December.
Thanks goodness the Happy Camper tank treatment works.. because we essentially had an open hole to our excrement stew for quite a while… and didn’t smell a thing!
And, we were able to find someone local willing to ‘user replace’ the spring valve and gift our older toilet to.
We received a lot of recommendations to next time fill the bowl with the pink RV antifreeze stuff – this will keep the seal lubricated. And to cover the bowl with plastic wrap to prevent evaporation. We’ll be doing both later this month when we prepare Zephyr for storage again.
Flexsteel Haloleather Fail
We also noticed upon return that our Flexsteel Captain’s Chairs that we installed at Bradd & Hall in May 2014 were massively cracked and peeling.
We initially posted to Instagram & Facebook about it – and many responded that they too had issues.
And that led to talking with Flexsteel and learning that there was a bad batch of this cheap imitation leather in 2013-2015 – and our ‘Haloleather’ was effected.
But because the RV manufacturer’s selected the material, Flexsteel was claiming no responsibility. And the fabric manufacturer had long ago gone out of business.
But many coach manufacturers were handling the issue for customers with new covers.
So we next contacted Bradd & Hall, and they immediately told us they were offering effected customers free new covers.
Or, upgrades to ‘Ultraleather’ for just the additional cost.
They sent us some fabric samples, and we honestly liked a standard fabric better.
They had a new set made and sent us – at no cost to us.
Now we just need to figure out how to take the old ones off and install them (future project!).. or get the bus back to Elkhart to take them up on their free install offer.
In our opinion, Bradd & Hall went above and beyond to address the issue (and we were super impressed with their RV furniture installation in 2014 that we paid full price for – they’re top notch), and Flexsteel too dismissive in their denial of responsibility.
Summary
All and all, we made a few mistakes. But nothing that dissuaded us from our fleet approach to nomadic living.
All manageable. Lessons learned, things we can improve.
We did have other routine maintenance to attend to upon getting Zephyr out of storage – like all new tires (they were now 8 years old), changing out the muffler that had cracked, general fluids & lubrication and water system sanitization.
And we are thankful that we had our van conversion to live in while all of this was being taken care of.
This having multiple mobile homes to split our time between is a bit to juggle.. and a huge asset.
Kathi Brunet says
Hi! We enjoy your videos, especially the most recent in Florida and Texas. Would you mind sharing the name of the “truck and bus” repair shop in Kyle that you used? And were you pleased with their work? Thank you.
Mary says
Sorry for your troubles, but thank you for sharing the solutions. & a 2 for Brad & Hall very nice helpful folks!
Sherry says
Boy you guys are real troopers. I was exhausted by the time I finished this. Good thing there are two of you to take care of all of this.. I had to store mine for 6 months after my husband’s death and I’m not sure I would have had the willpoiwer to clean up/replace/repair what you found. When stored I had it outside – good and bad – hooked to electricity and sun available for solar. Fridge empty and doors open so no mold inside but outside is a different story. Biggest problem for me is very badly needing it washed and waxed. A job we used to do together but that I just can’t take on alone. I stay mostly in State and National parks where they don’t allow detailers and the 6 months was in Virginia where they have never even heard of RVs let alone have a detailer that gets fiberglass. It’s been 18 months and I’m still looking as the situation gets more grim.
Crystal Waters says
I think I overly err on the side of caution when it comes to our RV cleanliness. We have to store ours offsite from our home and I completely Clorox the heck out of it even if it’s just going to be in storage for a month after a weekend trip. This post helps me feel like I’m not crazy for doing that (although I’m sorry you had to deal with that icky mold).
Patty Sedlacko says
Wow, that was a really informative post. My husband even ask for the link after I told him about Pink RV antifreeze. There is always something to learn reading your blog. Thank you and keep blogging. Love you guys.
Cherie Ve Ard says
No link.. you can pick the stuff up in the RV section of Walmart 🙂
Jan Sulick says
Great content as usual. Thanks guys!
Nomadlyweds says
So much work! That fridge…eww haha. Glad you got everything up and running again.
BarbK says
Very useful info! Thanks!
Greg says
Find myself storing longterm (well 9 mos but I think its long), very useful info – thanks.
Marcy Beard says
Hi! We just installed lithium batteries in our travel trailer, and my husband was reading about long-term storage procedures. Apparently lithium batteries have a very low self-discharge rate. Also it’s suggested to store them not-fully-charged. So set them at ~80% full, disconnect them, and they will be fine for a long time. Hope that helps for next time! Assuming you’re sticking with lithium…
Cherie Ve Ard says
We needed to keep things running while in storage – internet, remote monitoring, etc.
Bastian says
Why did you not opt to rent out the bus instead? Did the sharing economy did not reach technomadia yet? Stay with the times guys 🙂
Cherie Ve Ard says
We can count on one hand the people we would trust with our unique vintage bus – and none of them would have been interested in renting her.
Sherry says
Love your videos. Glad Zephyr got it’s “Get out of Jail” Free Card…grin. I learned a lot from the video. Loved seeing Kiki greeting Zephyr for the first time again. Don’t envy you the refrigerator clean out – oy. Interesting information regarding diesel engines. Thanks for all the information. Look forward to your next posting.
azcrazyusan says
yeesh…20 months was a tiny bit too long. Of course, you’ve already solved the issues, that’s what you do. Thanks for posting.
Don Rose says
Sorry to hear of the LI failure. What will you do for replacement?
Cherie Ve Ard says
Stay tuned…. update coming.
Steve Zoller says
Excellent perspective.
Rick Filcoff says
Hello Cherie and Chris,
Glad to hear that you were able to resolve the issues that arose from the longer than anticipated storage and that these issues have not deterred you. Many people are likely to benefit from you documenting this experience. In the event that we ever need to place our RV in long time storage, I plan to refer back to this article,
Rick
RWTL says
Wow! When it rains it pours. Sorry to hear about all the issues. I’ll be interested to hear what you decide to do for new batteries.
Denise J Craigen says
All great info. I will definitely remember the pink RV Water system antifreeze trick! Thanks so much for sharing.
Cherie Ve Ard says
We hope it works!
Sonia & David says
Thanks for sharing lessons learned we can all learn from. I like your ”nomaditude”. Couldn’t do what you’re doing without it.