Five years ago we were on the hunt for our first folding electric bikes, and we had a very particular requirement – the bikes needed to fold up small enough to store in the front luggage bay on our bus.
There was just no place to store full-size bikes with the way the bus and Mini Cooper were set up for traveling – and even most folding bikes we found were too tall fo fit into the one viable storage location.
After a long hunt we eventually found a (literal!) perfect fit, and purchased a pair of e-Joe Epik SE’s – and we have had a lot of fun with those bikes ever since.
They are fun to ride both under power or under pedal, and the are even able to handle some decent trails for off-road explorations.
And they fold up small enough not only to fit in the bay of our bus, but we could actually fit the pair into the back of our Mini Cooper too!
But five years have passed – and our needs have changed…
The Mini Cooper has been replaced with a Travato camper van, the bus is based in Arizona, and we now spend part of our year on a boat.
There is no longer a critical need for bikes that can fit into a bus storage bay. Instead – we need bikes that will spend much of their life parked in the cockpit of our boat, or hanging off the back of our van.
We kept the old e-Joes when we moved aboard Y-Not, and they have been great to have for getting around when we are docked – especially when we are without other shore transportation (because despite our wish, the Travato is NOT self driving to meet up with us at every dock.)
But our old bikes have aged rapidly stored outdoors in the rain and salt air.
In particular, the tiny control board that turns on the electrical portion of the bikes tends to die over time, and we’ve already been through several pricey replacements.
Both of our control boards have recently died again (turning our eBikes into heavy regular bikes) – and during our last bike-shop tuneup the mechanic told us the components on our bike had reached the point where he would be afraid to turn any screws or bolts for fear of them cracking. The paint is flaking off the frame in several locations too, and the old bikes really just look like crap now – even though they are still rideable.
As always – when something breaks, we just consider it jumping to the front of the upgrade list!
We were looking forward to a lot of riding now that fall weather is here – so it is time for us to track down some new eBikes that better fit our current needs.
And wow – there are sure a LOT more options than when we were shopping five years ago!
Video Version
Here is the video that accompanies this post, with a closer look at our current e-Joes:
Our eBike Requirements
We are looking for great all-around eBikes that are enjoyable to ride (even on moderate trails) without electric assist, but which are comfortable for errand running under power, or getting around on days we’d rather not get all sweaty.
Our new bikes need to be small enough to store in our boat cockpit – full size bikes are probably too big. Our cockpit allows for bikes to be about 60″ long total to be able to be stored off to the side.
Compact bikes with 20″ tires seems to be the sweet spot – big enough for trails, small enough for storage on the boat.
And though we don’t absolutely need our bikes to fold anymore – folding may still be a desired or common feature in this size. Folding bikes open the door to being able to more easily cart the bikes ashore by dinghy when needed.
Most important – we want bikes that are durable, and which can handle life on the back of a van or in a boat’s cockpit. While we WILL be getting a cover for our new bikes and aren’t expecting marine-grade guarantees – being left out in the rain should NOT kill these bikes prematurely.
Also important – the bikes we select need to have enough power and range to handle carting around a 250 lb rider, and groceries. We’d like enough range to feel comfortable going on 25+ mile trips, without worrying about needing to pedal back.
Pricing wise – we’re not looking for cheap. But at the same time, top-end also isn’t appealing as we know any bikes we buy will suffer from being stored exclusively outdoors. We also like biking, but don’t LOVE it – if you get what we mean.
So staying in the same ballpark price point as our old e-Joes ($1,500) is our target, unless convinced otherwise. Any bikes priced over $2,000 will certainly gives us pause – and that rules out a lot of high-end brands.
Sponsorships/Partnerships: We know many eBike companies focused on the RV or boat market frequently partner with social media influencers sending them free bikes in exchange for reviews and/or affiliate relationships. We’re not driven by this model in general and are seeking the right bikes for us, not pitches for free bikes. We’re not looking for “free” that comes with obligations.
That said, if the right bike also aligns with a partnership that feels good and transparent, we’re not completely opposed to it either.
And of course – whatever bikes we get need to look good too!
Timing Matters
Shopping around online, there are a lot of amazing eBikes that are in the IndieGoGo / Kickstarter pre-sale phase, with “early bird” delivery promised in December, February, or even not until the middle of next year. Once you start clicking on a few of these, it seems that your Facebook feed quickly becomes nothing but “check out this revolutionary new eBike!” ads.
A new bike that is still months from shipping won’t work for us.
Our current bikes are on their last legs, and we’d ideally like to find replacements so we can enjoy some Florida (and maybe Arizona if/when we return to the bus) biking this fall and winter.
Nice Rack / Light Weight
We’ve spent most of our time owning our van without a way to bring bikes along, as finding the ideal bike rack for a camper van that can handle the weight and shape of eBikes turns out to not be an easy task.
But we’ve recently purchased a RockyMounts Backstage bike rack recommended in the Travato Owners & Wannabees group that is absolutely perfect for our needs.
The unique feature of the Backstage is that it is designed to swing out to let the van rear doors open, a critical feature since we need to open the back door to control dumping our tanks.
And when the weather is great, we like to leave the rear doors open for view and ventilation.
This bike rack is phenomenally well built (we are SUPER impressed with it – well worth the $650 price tag) – but it does have some limitations:
- Weight Limit: 60 lbs max per tray
- Tire Size: Minimum 20″ wheels, fat tires are OK.
This means that heavy eBikes are out – and we wouldn’t want to try hoisting monsters that large into a dinghy anyway!
Finding quality eBikes that weigh less than 60 lbs is surprisingly challenging. So for our criteria we are nixing bike that are over 70 lbs, assuming we can remove the battery and other accessories to get closer to the max weight limit of the bike rack.
We’ll research further from there to determine suitability.
And the constraints of our rack also means tiny bikes with 10″ or 16″ wheels will be too small – not that we are drawn to that style anyway.
Currently Ruled Out
All of these came up in our research, or were recommended by others – but were ruled out for these reasons…
Probably too Big
- Boogie Bike Cruiser – Gorgeous 55lb eBike, but the 26″ wheels and lack of folding capability probably make it too big for us.
- Himiway – Great looking full-size (26″ wheel) bikes, costing $1,399. The 72 lbs weight and wheel size rules Himiway our for us.
- Dost Drop – Really impressively designed mid-drive eBike, but the full size frame is a problem for us.
- Juiced CrossCurrent S2 – A huge battery bank gives a 50-75 range, and yet the bike is still relatively light weight. But the full size tires rule it out.
Probably too Heavy
- Sykl – Sykl is very popular in the RV world, and for good reason. The 16″ wheels on the C310 model are too small, and the battery is small and limited to short range excursions. And the C750 with 20″ wheels and a bigger battery looks great in many ways, but the 73 lb base weight rules it out.
- Green Bike USA – A folding fat-tire bike with a ton of appealing features and a huge battery bank, but the 77 lbs weight is just too heavy.
Ruled Out For Other Reasons…
- Swagtron – Great value eBikes, with options as cheap as $349 – though most have tiny tires and small battery packs. The EB8 at $799 with 20″ tires is interesting, but small battery and weak motor make for a more ”budget” bike than we are looking for.
- Gocycle – Super snazzy and expensive folding eBikes starting at $3299 for a folding option. But the small batteries, large price, and 220lb rider weight limit seem to rule these out.
- Rocket eBike – Nice looking folding fat-tire eBike being heavily advertised on Facebook. But ”super early bird” target ship date is February 2021.
- Biktrix Kutty – Looks like a promising eBike, but all 2020 inventory sold out.
- Tern Vektron Q9 – Awesome high-end folding eBike with a mid-drive motor, but the max rider weight of 230 lbs and the over $3,000 pricing is a turn off.
- Bromptom – Highly regarded bikes that fold up ridiculously small, and they are super cool. They now come in electric versions but with a hefty price tag (starting at $3500). And because the 16″ wheels won’t work with our rack, we can just rule these out.
Are there any of these we might have cut from consideration prematurely?
Current Top Contenders
These are the current bikes on our short list that we are diving deeper into researching (comparative spec grid below.)
- e-Joe EPIK Swan – e-Joe’s EPIK Swan is the evolved model of our EPIK SEs, and it has come a long way in five years. Step-through frame, integrated control screen and lights. Five level pedal assist, throttle, and seven speed gearing. And this is one of the lightest weight options on our radar.
- Lectric XP – Lectric has a great reputation for quality and value – and has taken the social media world by storm with their cool fat-tire folding eBikes. Available in traditional and now step-through frames. Our biggest hesitation with Lectric is how social media influencer driven their marketing is, which would mean if we acquired them we’d be assumed to be partnered with them (whether we are or not).
- Sonders Fold – Very nicely built folding fat tire bikes – available in a 500W or 750W version. Once fully decked out, the Sonders Fold might be pushing our weight limits.
- Rad Mini – From one of the leading eBike makers, the 3″ fat-tire Rad Mini has a legion of fans and comes very well equipped. The 69 lbs base weight is a concern and just sneaks in under our 70 lbs threshold. We’ll be looking further for how well our bike rack might handle this model without the battery inserted.
- Ariel Rider M Class – Compact and light-weight mid-drive bike with a ton of features, but it does not fold. Some reviews called this bike “almost perfect for its price”.
- Blix Vika+ – Nice looking folding eBike with a lot of quality components and features that ticks most of our requirements, also marketed via social media influencers.
- Luna Folding Bike – A lightweight (just 38 lbs!) folding mid-drive bike with specs that on paper look fabulous. But the weird look of the bike is a turnoff.
New Additions Based on Comments:
We’ll keep this list as suggestions are made in comments here and on YouTube for further research:
- Pedego Element – New to the market and competitively priced, this bike meets a lot of our requirements – except it is NOT a folding bike.
- QuietKat Voyager – Recommended as a marine grade option that hits a lot of our requirements including a weight capacity of 325 lbs. However, a bit above our price range and not shipping until Christmas.
- BoltonBikes – The Avenger (step-through) and Crusader seem to meet the requirements, and have a 330lb weight limit.
- Aventon Sinch – Another one that seems to meet the requirements.
- Engwe EP-2– Another one
We will be digging up all the online reviews on these options to get a sense for what will best fit our needs. Especially since tracking down test-rides in the pandemic world will not be practical, we will be especially dependent on finding good quality reviews to base our buying decision on.
If you have any positive or negative experiences with any of these options – please share!
Here is a quick table comparing the current top contenders listed above:
Style / Tires | Motor | Battery | Weight | Price | |
e-Joe EPIK SE (Current) | Folding / 20″ x 1.75″ Tires | 350W (550W Peak) | 36V / 9Ah / 324Wh – 25 mile range | 42 lbs with battery, 36 lbs without. | $1,599 |
e-Joe EPIK Swan | Folding Step-Thru / 20″ x 2.125″ Tires | 500W (860W Peak) Bafang – 25 mph peak speed. | 48V / 11Ah / 528 Wh – 40 mile range | 45-50 lbs (with battery) | $1,699 |
Lectric XP | Folding Step-Thru or Conventional / 20″ x 4″ Fat Tires | 500W (800+ W Peak) – Can shift from 20 mph Class 2 to 28 mph Class 3. | 48v / 10.4Ah / 499 Wh – 45 mile range | 63 lbs (with battery) | $899 |
Blix Vika+ | Folding Step-Thru / 20″ x 2″ Tires | 500W | 48V, 14 Ah (672 Wh) – 45 mile range | 56 lbs (with battery), 50 lbs (without) | $1,599 |
Rad Mini 4 | Folding / 20″ x 3″ Fat Tires | 750W | 48V, 14 Ah (672 Wh) – 45 mile range | 69 lbs | $1,499 |
Sondors Fold X / XS | Folding / 20″ x 4″ Fat Tires | 500W (X) or 750W (XS) | 48V / 14Ah / 672 Wh – 40-60 mile range | 66 lbs (X), 70 lbs (XS) | $1,199 (X) / $1,699 (XS) |
Ariel Rider M Class | Non-Folding Mid-Drive / 20″ x 1.75″ Tires | 500W Mid-Drive | 48V / 12 Ah / 576 Wh | 47.5 lbs | $1,649 |
Luna Folding | Folding Mid-Drive / 20″ Street Tires | 750W Mid-Drive | 52V – 200 Wh or 625 Wh | 38 lbs | $1,800 |
Pedego Element | Non Folding / 20″ x 4″ Tires | 500W | 48V / 480 Wh – 40 mi range | 50 lbs (no battery) | $1495 |
QuietKat Voyager | Folding / 20″ x 4″ Tires | 750W | 48V / 557 Wh – 20-40 mi range | 60 lbs | $2599 |
Bolton Bikes | Folding / 20″ x 4″ Tires | 500W | 48V / 600 Wh | 63 lbs (with battery) | $1299 |
Aventon Sinch Foldable Bike | Folding / 20″ x 4″ Tires | 500W/750w peak | 48V / 672 Wh – 40 mi range | 68 lbs (with battery) | $1499 |
Engwe EP-2 | Folding / 20″ x 4″ Tires | 500W | 48V / 600 Wh – 18-37 mi range | 70 lbs (with battery) | $1199 |
Keep in mind, these specs (especially range claims) may be inflated…
Any Other Recommendations?
The eBike market is evolving rapidly – and there are SO MANY amazing designs to be found out there. So what have we missed considering?
If you have any favorite eBikes that you think should be on our short list, let us know!
Update
Thanks for all of the suggestions. Unfortunately, with even more options to consider – it just put us into analysis paralysis. Sometimes too much information isn’t productive.
So when e-Joe sent out a coupon code for $150 off their bike – we went ahead and placed an order for two Swans in October.
Estimated shipping time however isn’t until
December JanuaryFebruary<?!?>.Late Feb 2021 Update: Our Swans *FINALLY* arrived after several delays due to shipping from China and imports into Los Angeles. We’ll update when we can on the new bikes, but for now – we’re going to go find some trails to ride! Looks like the batch that came in immediately sold out, and now shipping for new bikes isn’t until August.. but you might be able to find them at dealers.
Matthew says
Considering your requirements for an e-bike under 70 pounds with a load capacity of 325 pounds and a budget around $1500, I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend the Heybike Mars. This surprisingly light e-bike weighs a mere 66.1 lbs but can handle up to 330 lbs, costs $899 only https://www.heybike.com/products/heybike-mars-electric-bike
Cherie Ve Ard says
Thanks.. this is a really old post, and we are already shopping for our replacements, with totally different parameters these days. but perhaps this might help someone who finds this post.
Andrea Elkins says
Impressive summary, thanks Chris & Cherie! I’ve bookmarked these sites for further research.
Cherie Ve Ard says
Thanks for all of the suggestions. Unfortunately, with even more options to consider – it just put us into analysis paralysis. Sometimes too much information isn’t productive.
So when e-Joe sent out a coupon code for $150 off their bikes in their newsletter – we went ahead and placed an order for two Swans last night.
Estimated shipping time however isn’t until December.
Andy says
Great Information! My wife and I are looking too. Similar criteria. We looked at a Pedego Latch which is foldable. Looks like solid design.
We presume it didn’t make your list due to high price of $2999. Any other reason you would not consider this a good choice.
Cherie Ve Ard says
First we’ve heard of it.. thanks. We have already purchased two e-Joes however – too many options to consider 🙂
Lou says
FIIDO D11
Roger Beck says
Consider checking in on VeeGo e-bikes. I believe they may match your likes with prices from $999 – $2099 with a 10% discount if you are buying two bikes. They are built in California and have a dealer in St. Petersburg, FL. We are about to purchase two bikes and a new hitch. Good luck and looking forward to your choice.
Steve Bahrns says
You might take a look at Magnum Bikes. We have one of their foldables and it has been a steady performer for several years. They have a high step and low step model.
https://www.magnumbikes.com/product/magnum-premium-ii-high-step/
Good luck
Erica Hammer says
I know you already have a Rad bike on your list.
But also consider the Rad City 3. (It’s not folding)
I have the Rad City 3 step through, due to knee issues. (They also make a “normal” Rad City 3.)
Very well built. $1499, delivered. Easy to finish assembly.
65 pounds, but is less with battery removed.
Sturdy rack on back that you could add baskets/ panniers.
The wider tires are great when we’re on gravel roads/trails in state parks, etc. Gives me a little extra stability.
I get about 40 miles per charge, with some moderate hills, some level biking. Although I am NOT a strong biker, I can set the power level to 1 or 2 (out of 5) and get by most of the time. Only occassionally I need to add a bit of throttle assist – – if I’m on a hill.
I LOVE mine! (It replaced a Giant eBike that was about 14 years old)
Good luck with your decision!
Sherry says
Greetings, Chris, Cherie & Kiki, I very much enjoyed your review of your current E-bikes.
I purchased a Tern folding E-bike two years ago. It was expensive, heavy but very durable, with good size tires. No trouble with the electronics or motor. I can get 30 miles out of a charge. I did buy a carrier for my car. Even when folded it seemed to take up a bit of space not easily installed in the trunk of the car. All that said, I am very pleased with it.
Not necessarily recommending it for your purposes, but I ‘m just happy to talk with fellow
E-bikers. You previous posts inspired me to purchase an E-Bike and ride it proudly.
Look forward to hearing what you decide to buy.
Love the introductory Kiki cameo.
Bruce Pirtle says
We have an AT R750 (mine) and AT Scout step through (my wife’s) from M2S Electric Bikes (m2sbikes.com). They are based outside Asheville, NC with warehouses also on the west coast.
They are 4″ fat-tire ebikes. The Scout may be more of a fit for size than the bigger R750. They are almost direct competitors to the RAD ebike line.
We carry them on a Thule ebike rack mounted on a swing-away mount by Yakima.
Both mounted on our Jeep which we tow behind our 40’ Tiffin Bus.
G says
Hello Bruce… I’m in the market for a 20″ 4″-fat-tire bike and have been looking at the M2S Scout 2020 version and trying to compare it to the Sondors Fold XS and the Veego 750. Did you by chance look at any of these before you went with the M2S? I can’t make my mind up and, at this point, I’m looking for someone to steer me in the right direction! I don’t ‘have to have’ a folding model, it will be stored in our garage so space is not an issue. It’s more about the power, distance, company reliability and possibly looks!
Bruce says
Afternoon – to answer your question, I did not look at any other models as true, comparable contenders except the RAD model. I already had a M2S RT750 bike and was accustomed to the specs and build quality so that eased my concerns for the Scout. My wife had a larger RT750 also, but, it proved to be too big for her (she’s 5’).
So when the Scout was introduced, it was a natural progression for her. She loves the size and ease to mount/dismount, yet, still have similar power/range capabilities to the RT750 I have. The Scout is well built and solid. The motor is a 500W version of the 750W Bafang on my 750.
It has a rear luggage/gear rack and front basket as standard equipment. The front/rear fenders are metal – not plastic – and have sturdy mount struts.
The only problem I’ve had with the Scout is the control display began to show signs of failure after about 10 months. I contacted M2S and they promptly sent a replacement unit under warranty.
As for the company, you usually can’t talk to a human unless you schedule a call ahead of time. They are usually fairly prompt to responding to emails regarding any problem or question you may have, though,
But, just like most other e-bike manufacturers out there today, they only get bikes in shipment lots on a schedule (approx every 2-3 months) so if you find one you want you most likely can get one reserved in the next arriving shipment. The bikes usually move quickly so the changes of stumbling upon one already in inventory are so-so.
All said, I’m satisfied with the bike and feel it surpasses the RAD model in specs.
Hope this helps.
Steve says
I’m a big fan of Bike Friday bikes. They are specialists in folding bikes, but starting about 8 years ago, they branched out into compact cargo haulers. ALL of their bikes have an electric option, but thier most robust is the electric only Everyday Haul-A-Day:
https://www.bikefriday.com/folding-bikes/ever-e-day-electric-cargo-bike
Looks like it easily meets your weight criteria.
The frames are ADJUSTABLE including an extendable bottom tube, it MIGHT meet your 60″ long boat storage criteria.
And because the frame adjusts easily, you two might consider getting just 1 for your hauling, and a 2nd, lighter e-bike, also adjustable for whoever isn’t using the hauler that day!
Above all, I say you should CALL them. Their bike personalization specialists are both very patient and incidteful. Give them your constraints and they’ll work within them to find the perfect match for your needs.
R Williams says
Thank you for all of the research and your informative review of these compact bikes. I wish these bikes were available 5 years ago when we purchased our WAVE bikes.
jcw3rd says
I want to put in my vote for the Sondors XS Fold. Great bike. You can reduce the weight issue by removing the battery and the seat (keeps the seat out of the weather).
Tim and Linda BUNYAN says
Hello fellow “ebike” hunters.
We too have been searching for the perfect solution and here’s our current favorite:
Kyle over at Bolton Ebikes (in Grass Valley, California) has a couple models of excellent folding bikes; the “Avenger” and the “Crusader. Bolth bikes spec-out the same and seem to be viable possiblities for you…and us. The following criteria will fit into your spreadsheet and much more can be found at Boltonebikes.com.
Brand: BOLTON (Boltonebikes.com)
Style: Folding Step-Through
Folded Dimensions: 29″ Tall x 37″ Long x 19″ Wide
Tires: 20″ x 4” Kenda Krusade Sport
Motor: 48 Volt, 500 Watt, Bagang Brushless Hub Motor
Throttle: Thumb Throttle
Battery: 48Volt, 12.5 Amp Hour
Weight: 63 Pounds (including the battery)
Weight Capacity: 330 Pounds
Rear Rack: Included
Fenders: Included
Price: $1,299
Kyle at Bolton has many informative YouTube videos.
Tim and Linda
casarollnotes.blogspot.com
Cherie Ve Ard says
Thanks a bunch.. adding it to the list!
Bob Martel says
Wow! I had no idea the range of possibilities had expended this much. I haven’t checked but I am surprised that there are no candidates from the ”traditional” bike manufacturers such as Trek, Specialized or Giant. I’m looking forward to seeing what you end up getting.
Chris Dunphy says
Last I checked, most of the traditional bike manufactures did not have “compact” electric bike options that would fit our needs, and the bike they did sell cost a LOT compared to the new or lesser known brands.
Laura Maydah says
Pedego has just released a 20″ fat tire bike called the Element. They come with 48/10 batteries and look like a great little get-around bike. Their weight should work for you, and I believe they’ll support 250#.
I know you’re struggling with size, but Pedego makes some awesome 26″ bikes that will be under your 70# weight by about 5# with the battery. You can’t beat their service/support system, as they’re the largest Ebike company in the country. And they’re quite customizable, too!
Cherie Ve Ard says
Thanks for putting this on our radar… great price point too!